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  San Diego abuse case: stay tuned. Zalkin's motion to be considered this Friday.

  by Sugar Shane in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  zalkin proposing huge sanctions if jw leadership fails to produce documents.

  unredacted this time!

  feds need to get involved with this.

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  The Australian list contained just over 1000 names of abusers. The US database allegedly contains over 20,000! Holy CRAP!?!

  This number shouldn't surprise though, given the overall greater number of JW adherents in the US, compared to Australia. Furthermore, the very EXISTENCE of such a list shouldn't shock, as parts of the US database WERE apparently shown to the appeals judge. They were just too blanked-out & redacted to be of any use.

  Incidentally, much of Prince's involvement with the JWs is now making the rounds on news websites. Many journalists are pondering as to who will inherit his vast estate. I've seen comments to these stories which make reference to the ARC & pedo lawsuits, as well as the overall 'cultiness' of the JWs. Now would be a good opportunity to make some comments of our own, with specific reference to this San Diego case & the WTs potentially HUGE pedophile database. It would hopefully start getting the attention of more NON-JWs. I'd personally love to see 60 Minutes go after 'em!

  Here's one such article. Their are more just like it. Simple 'Google' "Prince Jehovah's Witness," under the NEWS topic, and you'll get plenty o' hits:

  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3555735/Inside-Prince-s-Jehovah-s-Witness-Church-singer-went-door-door-Bible-hand-large-cash-donations-years.html
  

  
  
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  San Diego abuse case: stay tuned. Zalkin's motion to be considered this Friday.

  by Sugar Shane in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  zalkin proposing huge sanctions if jw leadership fails to produce documents.

  unredacted this time!

  feds need to get involved with this.

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  Zalkin proposing huge sanctions if JW leadership fails to produce documents. UNREDACTED this time!

  Feds need to get involved with this.

  http://m.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/apr/24/ticker-tough-build-jehovahs-witness-sex-abuse-case/?templates=mobile
  
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  JW Story on Dateline this Friday

  by ShirleyW in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  pam candelario, ralph candelario, dateline nbc: colorado man killed second wife, first wife still missing.

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  the title of an article in the inqusitr, i get the google alerts for the dubs, but this site for some reason i couldn't do a cut and paste, anyway, if you're interested to see why one of jehovahs loyal servants would kill his 1st and 2nd wives it's supposed to be broadcast this friday at 10pm est..

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  Was this guy an elder? MS? CO? Just wondering how 'high up' he was.

  Seems as if the greater one's 'rank' in the org, the higher the expectations & stress level. Just wondering if he one of those types, who was: stressed, depressed, cognitively dissonant, awake yet conflicted, or whatever. Not to say this would directly cause his behavior, but it might be a contributing factor.
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  Good article - Are Jehovah's Witnesses a religious Ponzi scheme?

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  www.the-newshub.com/general/are-jehovahs-witness-a-religious-ponzi-scheme

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  I see it as less of a rant, and more of a thorough news article, with plenty of examples cited, Watchtower articles & books properly referenced down to the page/s. If only the Watchtower would provide references like that, or perhaps not take the ones they DO so out-of-context.

  The author ties the blood transfusion issue into one if the WT's MANY false promises, while building the case that all these FALSE PROMISES are tantamount to a ponzi scheme. He ties these seemingly loose ends together at the end of the article, making a good case for the WT being a big scam.

  It reminded me of some of the articles I've read in "The Economist," concerning such schemes in the business world. To someone accustomed to a more 'get-to-the-point,' style of writing, this piece might be a little incoherent, or at least long-winded.
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  Very Weird Experience During Recent Special Talk After Memorial

  by Tenacious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hesitantly i attended this talk with my family and sat through it without batting an eye.. mentally i take myself out during the entire meeting some would describe this as daydreaming or zoning out.

  whatever the case may be, for some reason this particular speaker, whom i know of but not personally, got my attention the way he would say certain phrases.

  he cited some texts that directly advised the audience that faith in christ was the only way to salvation.

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  Ok...my reply got deleted for some reason. I was simply asking Tenacious what the reaction of the rank & file were? Did they just go along with it? Or were there some puzzled looks? I'm just curious as to how 'deep' someone can get in a belief system, to the point where even the Flying Spaghetti Monster sounds rational. It might help me in dealing with some JWs among my friends and some family. Thanks.
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  Very Weird Experience During Recent Special Talk After Memorial

  by Tenacious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hesitantly i attended this talk with my family and sat through it without batting an eye.. mentally i take myself out during the entire meeting some would describe this as daydreaming or zoning out.

  whatever the case may be, for some reason this particular speaker, whom i know of but not personally, got my attention the way he would say certain phrases.

  he cited some texts that directly advised the audience that faith in christ was the only way to salvation.

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  Tenacious, I gotta ask: when he made so many references to the Father, then emphasized faith in Jesus as a path to salvation, what did all the rank & file do? Did they just bob their heads in agreement? Smile with glazed-over eyes? Or did you see many puzzled looks and head scratching?
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  News Article on Theocratic Warfare!

  by Sugar Shane in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i especially like the author's final paragraph about "getting caught red handed.

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  https://www.the-newshub.com/general/the-jehovahs-witness-doctrine-of-theocratic-warfare.

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  I especially like the author's final paragraph about "getting caught red handed."

  https://www.the-newshub.com/general/the-jehovahs-witness-doctrine-of-theocratic-warfare
  
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  Order your VAA (Vast Apostate Army) stickers TODAY!

  by Sugar Shane in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  zazzle has packets of 20 for just over $5 usd.

  http://www.zazzle.com/vast_apostate_army_sticker-217905115862832820.

  now, calls for better organization, or just organization period, have often been brought up on this site, by those whose lives have been affected by this cult.

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  I think you can buy sticky backed printer paper for regular printers

  True. That should be very do-able too, I'd think. Even less expensive than ordering a batch of 20 from Zazzle.

  @Mrquik: Yeah, it doesn't take much to get a person to see the light, once that seed is planted.
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  Order your VAA (Vast Apostate Army) stickers TODAY!

  by Sugar Shane in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  zazzle has packets of 20 for just over $5 usd.

  http://www.zazzle.com/vast_apostate_army_sticker-217905115862832820.

  now, calls for better organization, or just organization period, have often been brought up on this site, by those whose lives have been affected by this cult.

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  Sugar Shane

  I 'designed' a coffee mug too. Took me all of 5 minutes. My source image is off the internet. I had to increase it's size, so the final product might come out slightly pixelated. It'd look better with an original, larger 'JWfacts.com' logo. Maybe if someone knows the folks who run that website, they can obtain a quality rendering of that logo. I suppose one could also make said logo from scratch. Here's my 'mugshot:'

  
  

  Again, the site is Zazzle.com

  There's another site called Cafepress, that offers similar services--do it yourself logos. It's so easy, an out-of-touch GB member could figure it out. Maybe.
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  Another puff piece article on JWs

  by Sugar Shane in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  found this article on google news.

  the last sentence says:.

  "no collections will be taken during this free event.".

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  Oops...I noticed that this assembly has already passed. Still, it shows up under Google News as a recent story.

  I'll keep my eyes and ears out for other JW related news items about upcoming events. Remember the reporter who went from "JW Brochures aren't really that bad," to "JW Brochures are grossly misleading, and they are a chaotic cult?" Without our input, that 'correction' would never have happened. Just sayin.'